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Posted by:
Randul Baumgarth
Tuesday, November 03, 2009
09:23 am | I just found a nail in my rear tire last night. It is in the tread and has a slow leak from it. The tire is brand new. Less than a couple hundred miles on it. How safe are plugs? I really don't want to replace the tire with 200 miles on it but am concerned with safety and the plug holding.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Posted by:
Kenneth Heming
Tuesday, November 03, 2009
09:41 am | I had there same thing happen to me. I plugged it with a plug from TECH and put 26,000 miles on it with no problem. The plug will vulcanize itself and become an intregal part of the tire.
ken heming
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Posted by:
Martin Larson
Tuesday, November 03, 2009
09:52 am | I too have plugged rear tires several times over the years, and ran a few for many thousand of miles. If you are accustomed to checking tire pressure regularly, you'll see if and when the plug begins to leak. Basically though, the plug does become part of the tire and only leak when the tires get really thin, many times, never.
I wouldn't plug a front tire, unless just to get home from a short distance. Rears don't worry me in the tread area, but I do check pressures more frequently once I plug one. martin
1995 Goldwing Interstate
Dallas Ft Worth
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Posted by:
Ed Siemers
Tuesday, November 03, 2009
09:54 am | I've used plugs, and never had one fail. However, the fact that it's in the tire is always nagging me. If your conscience allows it, you'll be fine. Otherwise, either have it repaired from the inside, or replace the tire.
I wish I could find a motorcycle tire that would last 26,000 miles on my 1800.
2007 Metallic Black GL 1800
1982 Suzuki GS 850 GL (bought new) |
Posted by:
William Warren
Tuesday, November 03, 2009
10:26 am | Go to NAPA and ask about the "patch/plug". It looks like a umbrella, has a head that is like a regular patch complete with stickum and protective celephane you remove. It has molded in the center, a stem an inch plus long with either a metal cone tip or a copper wire tip molded in. Theye come in several sizes, I have two boxes which I order, 10 to the box.
To install requires access inside the tire.
Remove object,
slightlt ream hole with rasp,
buff inner surface of tire slightly,
apply small bit of tire patch cement,
stick metal tip in hole from inside,
grab it with pliars and pull into place,
mash patch good to get glue all spread,
remount tire, inflate,
trim the stem and it's metal tip and discard.
I like them. No guarantee expressed or implied, use at your discretion.
I've even used them to patch sidewall puntures (on car tires on a car only) even, something I would not try with patch or plug alone. Had a good tread Goodyear Eagle RSA on the MercGM get a nail in the tread and come out the sidewall. I caught it before it went flat and I went to the shop and patched like that with two of these "patch/plugs" that then carried me over 8,000 miles cross country and back, 75-80 across desert, etc. After vacation, drove it a couple years here until it was finally wore out.
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Posted by:
Carl Pool
Tuesday, November 03, 2009
03:25 pm | I lost a friend 28 miles after he had a rear tire plugged at a dealer. His lady friend was banged up and he died in the hospital (his trailer hit him in the chest). Heart failure from all the stress I suppose ! ( the tire had 500 miles on it)
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Posted by:
Gerald Whelpley
Tuesday, November 03, 2009
05:14 pm | Randul, FYI you could google "Ride-On" sealant and look at it. I have used it in my bike, and wife's car. My brother has used it for the same thing, new tire, day later nail. He put 16,000 on the tire, with no air lost, before he replaced the worn out tire. It's your call.  |
Posted by:
Newton Enloe
Tuesday, November 03, 2009
08:45 pm | This subject is like oil, a whole lot of opinions and different experiences. Anyway, My memory is a bit vague,,,but I had a StopNgo plug fail on my Gl1500...took a nail the day I brought it home. I was pissed, but plugged it. Headed for Billings the next day and thought about that plug every 5 minutes.
Anyway, It lasted maybe...1500 miles, started leaking 10psi/day. I should have added green slime or something until I got home; I know that stuff works but is a mess to clean up.
So yep, I would patch it from the inside. |
Posted by:
Jerry Powell
Tuesday, November 03, 2009
09:38 pm | Randul, I had an Avon pick up a nail with 600 miles on it. I used a rope plug coated in glue. I put it in, turned it about 10 times, and then pulled the end back out and cut it. I pumped that tire to about 60 PSI and left it for 30 minutes, then went back to 50, and rode on until I could patch it. 18K miles later I thought about patching it when I took it off. Scott Austin tried to pull the plug out to the inside and couldn't. I bought a small spray bottle and put soap and water in it and checked the plug everyday for about 2 weeks, then seemed to forget.
Carl Pool's posting is the first that I have heard of anything critical happening after a tire repair, but he didn't provide any evidence that it was involved. The worst that I know of is a patch that leaked, and a rope plug was done as a temp fix, and stayed permanently. He had a leak that was no faster than the first one, and I fail to see how a repair could cause a catastrophic failure that could be any worse than the original leak.
I don't logically see a problem with it, but of course there are those that say if you fix it you will surely die
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Posted by:
Curtis Pierce
Wednesday, November 04, 2009
07:37 am | Ed, it is all in the choice of tires . . . .
The Darkside is calling . . . .
The Countdown begins!
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Posted by:
Carl Pool
Wednesday, November 04, 2009
10:02 am | Jerry his tire blew out after only 28 miles. The crash caused the heart problem to show up according to his Dr. . Even if he had survived a tire failure is a poor reason for a crash.
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Posted by:
Jerry Powell
Wednesday, November 04, 2009
10:38 am | Carl, A tire will not "blow out", IE a "catastrophic" "blow out" failure. Worst case scenario would be the repair failing, and having the tire go flat and the rider not recognizing the signs until it was too late.
Then many things come into play.
Where was the hole?
What type of plug / patch was used?
How was the site prepped?
Was there any other damage done to the tire when the puncture occurred?
How did the hole get there? Simple puncture or hit a 2X4 with a nail in it?
Do you have pictures of the repair and failure?
I'm sorry for your friend, but I can not see a catastrophic failure coming from a simple repair unless there was other damage done to the tire.
Even if the tire did suffer damage that led to the failure, there should have been warning signs.
BTW, what kind of tires were they?
(Message edited on November 04, 2009)
"I've never given anybody hell, I've always told the truth, and they thought it was hell"President Harry S. Truman
"I am not cynical, I just am optimistically challenged"
If loud pipes save lives, Why are so many people hit by trains??
Jerry and Kelly
"PLATOY2" 1995 GL1500 SE, "Mother of Pearl" white & homemade N/H trailer and Panther's Party Wagon
Email Me
No Representation without Taxation
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Posted by:
Ron Hampton
Thursday, November 05, 2009
06:00 am | I have plugged several. In my humble opionion I would never plug the front. Usually it is the rear that goes flat. The front tire stands the nail up and the rear hits it. Also I would also never use the mushroom plug, I would always use the old rope style with pleanty of glue. |
Posted by:
Lawrence Jarosz
Thursday, November 05, 2009
03:55 pm | I have plugged tires with rope type plugs and have used them until they were worn out with no problem. I purchased a stop and go kit and used it last summer on a fairly worn out E3 rode a few thousand miles with no problems. I used the stop and go on my quad tire a few days back and it is still holding. If you survived the first puncture and plugged it you will probably be able to survive the event of the plug comeing out I have never had it happen. If you are paranoid of what will happen if a plug comes out you should be too paranoid to ride a road bike with all the debree on the road. |
Posted by:
Steve Warriner
Friday, November 06, 2009
07:25 pm | If there was a catastrophic failure in Carl's friend's tire, it must have torn up the inside of the tire and broken cords. This could/should have been detectable from the inside of the tire by someone who is knowledgeable about tire damage.
If you are concerned with the dependability I would spend the money to have it removed, inspected, patched from the inside and reinstalled. just sayin'...
I'm too cheap to throw a tire away without at least checking to see if it is structurally intact. It should be professionally inspected. |
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