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Posted by:
Ken Cozicar

Wednesday, October 28, 2009
09:02 pm
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I am a new Goldwing rider and new member and have a question about handling slow speed stops and starts. It seems that when I do either of these, my bike has a tendacy to turn to the left. I have only about 500 miles on this bike and it is about 2 inches higher than my last one so it is possible that I am leaning as I start and stop. Any suggestions?
Posted by:
Jerry Powell

Wednesday, October 28, 2009
09:07 pm
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It's very possible since your left foot is the one to go down, and being a higher bike, you may be compensating by shifting your weight.
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Posted by:
Jack Durant

Wednesday, October 28, 2009
10:59 pm
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Have you taken an MSF course? The nice fluid stops and starts will come with practice and more practice. Find the back corner of a Home Depot parking lot and run through some Parking Lot Practice of your own. Remember if you fall down while doing what I suggested, it's not my fault, GWRRA's or Home Depot's.
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Posted by:
Al Trimm

Thursday, October 29, 2009
12:11 am
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Ken, riding an 800 plus pound two wheeled machine slow takes lots of PLP from even the most experienced riders. If I don't practice at least weekly it gets even more difficult.
Posted by:
James Jones

Thursday, October 29, 2009
02:17 am
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Ken, It is very possible like Jerry said. Also check your saddle bags. If you have more weight in the left side, this will also cause you to do that. Another thing is to keep your tire air pressure up to at least 40 front and 41 rear. Also do not look down when you are stopping and starting off. That is the most probable cause.
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Posted by:
Jack Shaffer

Thursday, October 29, 2009
02:39 am
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KEN TRIKE IT AS MY TRIKE HANDLES GREAT AT ANY SPEED!!!JACK
Posted by:
Kristopher Howell

Thursday, October 29, 2009
03:43 am
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Ken,
When I upgraded to the 1800 I had what sounds like the same problem. I discovered that with the new bike I was not slowing down to the correct speed before trying to deploy the footstand. It just rides so much better than my 1200 I was simply going too fast and my timing was off just a little and that was all it took to make stoping a little spooky. Practice and this too will pass.
Posted by:
Rolf Dean

Thursday, October 29, 2009
04:08 am
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When you are approaching your stop, scan your stopping are for the road surface imperfections and then when coming to a complete stop keep your eyes straight ahead of the bike. Looking down when you are coming to a stop will cause you to steer in the direction you are looking.
Butch USAF,MSGT, EOD Ret 2001
Posted by:
John Westbrook

Thursday, October 29, 2009
04:41 am
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Ken: New bike and probably too much front brake. In a month or so once you get use to the weight of the bike it will go away.
Posted by:
Lynn Mobley

Thursday, October 29, 2009
05:32 am
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Hi Ken
I have the same low speed problem as you. I know it's the bike and not me because my wife has the same bike and it rides so much better. Honda really under built the 1800 front suspension. I've tried both new tires and swapping tires with my wife and nether one worked. The OEM head bearings are balls and are too small. I'm going to replace them with roller bearings from wing stuff as soon as they get here. I'm also going with progressive springs in the front and a super brace. I'm hopping this will solve the problem. If not i may have the fork Cartridge replaced with Traxxion Dynamics. Here is a link http://traxxion.com/hondagoldwing.aspx Keep me because i am very interested in this topic.

(Message edited on October 29, 2009)
Posted by:
Joe Jeoffroy

Thursday, October 29, 2009
07:29 am
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As some stated, be aware where you're looking when stopping. I have a tendency to look to the left before coming to a complete stop which causes me to pull left almost losing balance. Practice stopping with eyes straight ahead, planting feet at complete stop , and then looking each direction.
Posted by:
Thomas Joiner

Thursday, October 29, 2009
08:52 am
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Ken - I am a new goldwing rider and member as well. I have the same problem. Even though I rode for many years; years ago, I took the MSF course and learned a lot; especially about using my eyes. I've improved my slow speed turns a great deal with proper use of my eyes. Now I'm improving my stopping, by doing as suggested; looking straight head. At the beginning of my MSF course they had us write down what we wanted out of the course. The first thing I wrote down was that I wanted to learn how to stop "gracefully." Well, I didn't master it overnight, but I'm getting better. My co-rider is appreciating my learning how to stop gracefully as well. Keep at it. Again, as suggested, practice, practice practice. Good luck with your riding. I'm having a great time riding these wonderful machines.
Thomas Bryan Joiner
Posted by:
Raymond Sykes

Thursday, October 29, 2009
10:53 am
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The bigger the bike, the more extreme the errors are noticeable by poor riders.
I am not saying you are a poor rider, but a smaller bike will hide a lot of problems caused by an inexperienced rider.
The cure is education, and practice to develop good handling skills.

Firstly be sure to keep the eyes up, front, and in the distance when coming to a stop, if you look to the side even momentarily before the bike is at a completely and controlled stop then the bike will go that way too.
Posted by:
Shedrick Holmes

Thursday, October 29, 2009
01:14 pm
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Lots of great suggestions on the upper posts. Ken did you post this question on the "Education Board" to see what kind of answers you get there? I'd be curious to know what kind of answers that you would get from current/non current Educators on this subject.
Posted by:
Dallas Neumiller

Thursday, October 29, 2009
01:47 pm
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I think that Shedrick has a good answer. The other ones about practice are very good also. I do some practice and when I took the advanced MSF course this summer I was chasing the 'crotch rocket' riders with my 'lead sled' 1500. Lots of PLP and when you think you have it, do some more.
Dallas Neumiller
Posted by:
John Owens

Thursday, October 29, 2009
01:58 pm
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Eyes up, don't look down when starting or stopping, when you lets your view drop below the level of the horizon it causes all sorts of low speed stuff when starting off.
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Posted by:
Ken Cozicar

Thursday, October 29, 2009
04:40 pm
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Have read all the posts and really appreciate the comments. I think the best and most fun idea is to ride, ride, ride. Lynn, let us know how you make out with the modifications. Thanks, everyone.
Posted by:
David Bouchard

Thursday, October 29, 2009
04:50 pm
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I know how to correct it:
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2. Chrome boomarang covers
3. Chrome wheeles
4. Chrome floorboards
5. Chrome windshield garnish
Oh yea alot of practice in the parking lots. Congrats on your new bike and be safe. David
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Posted by:
William Forshey

Friday, October 30, 2009
11:19 pm
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Having rode HD dressers for years before I went to a wing I was agast with the slow speed handleling of a wing.

Wobbles, felt like it was hinged in the middle, etc.

After finding these folks, getting the answers, problem not as bad now.

Went with progresive fork springs and shocks. The shocks tho I went with were of duel air type, not the single air and old spring one. (gl 1500)

This allows me to now do a flip on a 2 lane with mama on back.

It seems to me that a wing is built in rake and trail of steering a bit different from most other bikes.

Also, tire presure is very critcle on a wing. If mine get more than a couple pounds under 40 the feel is off.

Bill and Rhonda
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