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Posted by:
Charles Riddle

Friday, October 23, 2009
12:04 pm
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Thanx for the feedback re:car tires on 1500. Now I'm hearing about running rear m/c tires on the front of 2-wheelers with &/or w/o car tires.(I've heard about this with trikes for some time). Any feedback on that one? thanx. again.
Posted by:
Raymond Sykes

Friday, October 23, 2009
01:55 pm
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I hear they last longer since they have deeper tread, and yes they do grip the road better, and have a higher load rating too.

Just don't use a C/T on the front.
Posted by:
Michael Stone

Friday, October 23, 2009
02:09 pm
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I am running a rear tire on the front of my Nomad. I have a car tire on the back. The front tire is mounted backwards because the majority of force applied to the tire is when breaking rather than accelerating as is the case with a rear tire. In my case the rear tire in front as helped the bike when leaning on the curves and has a much higher weight rating than the front tire I was running. The treads are also deeper, so I expect to get better tire wear with that tire.
Posted by:
James Bertuca

Friday, October 23, 2009
04:10 pm
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It's just unbelievable how cheap people are when it comes to human life,or is it the mentality of the gold wing owner.Anything to save a buck, that's the gold wing way of thinking, god bless the cheapness,
Jim
Posted by:
Michael Stone

Friday, October 23, 2009
04:58 pm
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James, do you think that running a thicker, stronger tire on the front of a motorcycle is dangerous? Rear tires are just as round as front tires. Perhaps rather than using the word "cheap", a better word could be" unconventional". And as far as running a car tire in the back, don't knock it until you've tried it. Perhaps in the future you could contribute something of value to the message board instead unfounded criticism.
Posted by:
Garlan Wilson

Friday, October 23, 2009
06:20 pm
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James,
do you have any facts to back up your post??


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Posted by:
John Katkus

Friday, October 23, 2009
06:50 pm
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In my opinion - and yes we all have them - GoldWingers are not cheap, they just want a good value for the money. I see a set of tires for my GL-1500 costing $400-450 with a life of about 17,000 miles and then see a set of car tires, yes this is a different vehicle, put a set of 80,000 mile tires on an Accord for $450-500. Wow what a difference! Why such a dramatic difference? Yes the tires do work differently but the cost difference is sure noticeable. By the way, don't just say, get a cheap vehicle to ride, as I like my 94 Wing. Yes I really value my life and do not want to do something careless, but I am just wondering why the cost of tires has to be so expensive. Just my 0.02.
Posted by:
Raymond Sykes

Friday, October 23, 2009
06:54 pm
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Whilst I like the idea of the rear tire on the front, I am alarmed at installing it backwards, wouldn't this inhibit the ability of the tire to pump out water in the wet?
Posted by:
Jim Brown

Friday, October 23, 2009
07:05 pm
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Raymond if you look at the two tires you will see that the rear tire thread is opposite the front tread. So for it to run like a front tire you need to turn it around.
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Posted by:
James Bertuca

Saturday, October 24, 2009
06:04 am
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If it was meant to have a larger tire on the front the engineer's from all mfg. would be using them and install them, A trike is a different animal all together,if you get 15k on your tires be happy, tread life 80k on cars is a joke, no one gets it, you complain about it, and all they do is pro-rate them so you buy another set, then explain those larger tires to your insurance co. if your in a accident,I'm not talking about the dark side either!!!!! Value that's all your looking for, Crotch rockets run hard, they get between 1k & 1.5k on there rear tires, they moan, but they buy new, it's the nature of the sport!!!!!!
Jim
Posted by:
Michael Stone

Saturday, October 24, 2009
06:24 am
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Jim,
Actually the rear tires that are mounted on the front are the same size as the original front tires. It's just that they have deeper treads and can carry more weight. If an accident has nothing to do with the bike's tires, I don't think the insurance will scrutinize the type of tire that's on the bike.
Mike`
Posted by:
Raymond Sykes

Saturday, October 24, 2009
08:07 am
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James, my truck tires go 70,000plus miles and that is hard miles, of continual stop and go with heavy loads and hot freeway travel on concrete too.

The deeper the tread, the stronger the tire, and the bigger the footprint, the better!
Posted by:
Jim Holowchak

Saturday, October 24, 2009
08:34 am
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Like wearing your underwear backwards I suppose. They fit, not comfortably, can be worn this way but it's just not right. :-)
Best regards,

Jim

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Posted by:
Michael Stone

Saturday, October 24, 2009
03:19 pm
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Jim,
You make a good point. By wearing mine backwards on the second day I get twice the mileage out of them.
Posted by:
Sonny Faulkenberg

Sunday, October 25, 2009
09:30 am
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James,
Are these the same engineers who cant get the speedometer correct, or engineer a frame that wont crack?
Posted by:
Raymond Sykes

Sunday, October 25, 2009
01:01 pm
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Also how many bikes use the same tire on either the front or the back? also many have the same tire again on the sidecar, and the spare wheel that can bolt to the front, back, or sidecar when needed.
Posted by:
Thomas Denny

Monday, October 26, 2009
10:43 am
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Raymond Sykes Said: Whilst I like the idea of the rear tire on the front, I am alarmed at installing it backwards, wouldn't this inhibit the ability of the tire to pump out water in the wet?


Ray, like many others, you have fallen victim to advertising hype. Tires do not "pump" water. You can forget what you've "learned" from TV commercials. The fact is that the simple presence of tread and the depth of that tread is many times more important than any perceived direction that tread my seem to run or face. Turning a tire around and running it backwards will have no noticeable effect on it's performance in the wet. There are several popular motorcycle front/rear tire sets where the tread is identical except the front tire's tread is "backwards" from the rear tread and they have not been known as poor performers in the rain. If it made a significant difference the the tire manufacturers would not do it. Changing the amount of tread (void space) on a tire's surface or changing the depth of the tread on a tire will have a measurable and noticeable effect on it's performance in the rain. Actually, tire pressure has more effect on a tire's performance in the rain than any "direction" seen in a tread. All other things being equal, running a rear tire on the front with a deeper tread will result in improved wet weather performance over a tire with shallower tread regardless of which way it is mounted.
Do your own research on the subject if you like but don't believe everything (anything?) you see, read or hear in an advertisement.

(Message edited on October 27, 2009)


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Posted by:
James Bertuca

Monday, October 26, 2009
03:46 pm
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Raymond, What ply tires are you running on that truck? I'm on my second set of 80k mile good-year's,the first set lasted 27k with rotation every 3k.They also checked my front end & rear, I just can't buy it, sorry!!!!!!!

(Message edited on October 26, 2009)
Jim
Posted by:
Raymond Sykes

Monday, October 26, 2009
08:06 pm
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I have always used all terrain T/A
six ply tread areas and I think they are six ply sidewalls too.

50# in the rear and 40-42# in the front, they grip like it's on rails, and I carry a lot of weight in and on the back, with a shell fully loaded with tools and parts, and a rack carrying garage doors.

Other tires I have had to use, like the stock one's that come on the truck, or freebies from another truck, have only lasted around 20,000 miles, if that.

I would not recommend them for a passenger vehicle though as they do ride kinda hard.

(Message edited on October 26, 2009)
Posted by:
James Bertuca

Tuesday, October 27, 2009
09:23 am
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That's why your tread life is so great, you won't get that on a passenger tire or a motorcycle for sure, (thanks for your honesty)
Jim
Posted by:
Maurice Benazeraf

Thursday, October 29, 2009
06:29 pm
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James, I had 78000 miles on my Accord on Michelin. I replaced the set with same Michelin only because one front tire generated a lump and decided to replace all 4. But I know I could have had at least another 10K or so on the old tires. So, 80000 miles on a good brand of car tires is not unusual.
Posted by:
James Bertuca

Friday, October 30, 2009
06:19 am
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Maurice, You are one in a million. Bless you!!
Jim

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